I wanted to share my progress on one of the male bodyshapes I'm working on (currently there are three), the Brawny Knight. For this shape I wanted some muscle but a bit of padding around the hips, tummy and thighs. Think older knight, not past his prime but he's slowing down a bit, he's received land from his monarch and he's enjoying his family ;) He can still go to battle when called but he's getting older. He's the counterpart to the Buxom Wench that I have 3/4 of the way finished.
Fit state SF mesh for underwear or swim.

Side view of fit/fat/preg states

Fit state block feet for chausses

Side view of fit/fat/preg states

Fit state SF mesh for underwear or swim.

Side view of fit/fat/preg states

Fit state block feet for chausses

Side view of fit/fat/preg states

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Date: 2013-01-30 10:09 pm (UTC)From:I have a few medieval meshes for the that shape, I'll have to locate them so I can share. There are also a few things for him on the adult site, skins and underwear meshes.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e354/Cynnix/AngrySirReginald.jpg
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Date: 2013-01-30 10:26 pm (UTC)From:Oh- and any shape or age conversions for the perfect tunics = grovelling my thankfulness. The dang things really are a versatile shape IMHO and at least swapping shoes and feet is really easy.
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Date: 2013-01-30 10:29 pm (UTC)From:http://cynnix.dreamwidth.org/1954.html#cutid1
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Date: 2013-01-30 10:39 pm (UTC)From:I went looking-- the skins look very similar to the defaults I use, which is fun. In kind of a frustrating way. I swear, as soon as all the meshes I know I absolutely 100% need exist, I'ma bundle 'em all up, upload them, and post them as, like, Basic and Deluxe sets of Playable Medieval Bodyshape Conversion Starters, or something like that. Possibly with a Hat Is Weird bonus pack with the Plantsims and OFB and Bon Voyage ninjas in it.
... Sort of tangentially speaking of which, I have a question-- how hard are sleeve swaps? I have an idea but I keep going back and forth on whether I'm being a pain in the ass about all these mesh edits. (I swear, what's going to happen is I'll get all the textures I want done, get my business goal this year of being able to buy my own kiln, and then next year I'll finally cave and try to teach myself to mesh so I feel like less of a mooch for begging so much.)
That is a grumpy, hairy man indeed. *grins*
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Date: 2013-01-30 10:52 pm (UTC)From:AH, I loved the Reubens shape but I read that Bloom said it would be too hard to make clothing for it, because he moved things around or something with the bone assignments.
Sharing everything in a set like that would be a huge help to people new to bodyshapes :) I know many people are afraid to try them because they have to hunt for meshes and skins.
Sleeve swaps should be pretty easy, what sleeves do you want swapped?
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Date: 2013-01-30 11:11 pm (UTC)From:... Dude, if it would actually be helpful, then probably as soon as Heget finishes a few more tunics I'll get it up there. Mesh + single recolor is probably the most polite way to do it, right? And what would be the thing to include for skins?
Basically, a long straight sleeve (instead of a skintight sleeve) on the Amaryll strapdress, sexyfeet and flats, child through adult. I want to use the mesh for female servants' livery (because it's got one alpha group and is thus easily defaulted for NPCs, and because it's got a nice blousing at the waist so it's easy to get an apron on there) and for some ladies gym clothes based on June from the Tres Riches Heures. I could do it with the skintight sleeves, and that is my current plan; I just think it'd look nicer with a dimensional sleeve, and the pretty cuffed sleeve you did is just too fine for things like... setting his lordship's table or mucking out the pig sty or doing three hours of jumping jacks. I don't have anything so useful as a particular long, straight sleeve in mind, either, because I'm pretty much just that useless.
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Date: 2013-01-30 11:28 pm (UTC)From:And I think if we search through some of the modern seperates- especially sweaters, we could find a sleeve.
Yes, one of the reasons I have few bodyshapes is I hate to use only one or two meshes for all outfits, and if I have nude + two or 3 for everyday + an underwear/sleepwear + outerwear for medieval I'm more likely to nab.
Which tunics am I to be making for you waiting on? :P
(if I'm free tommorow I'm doing the Tunic length 03 and 04)
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Date: 2013-01-31 01:23 am (UTC)From:I don't think I mind only using a few meshes-- I mean, like I told Cynnix, I just collected most, if not all, of the meshes in my game that I could use for different body shapes and the AM folder currently has the most, at sixteen. Friar Tuck, Robin Hood, Blockfoot nude, FR's tunic, FR's chausses, six things from your Perfect Tunics set, Liz's Rus tunic, Marja's edit of the Count D robe, the Sims 2 Store knight, Tig's alpha tunic, and Skell's Santa robe. And I'm honestly not sure I'll use all the Perfect Tunics that're in there.
Course, my game sticks to one period, so that helps a little.
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Date: 2013-01-31 01:45 am (UTC)From:I'm typing up my 'heget's heresies' world-building explanations (and I like that title) as I read this.
It'll be easy to add one of the shoes meshes to the nightshirt meshes (cynnix's new boots!)
It's making a long {mid-calf and ankle length} version of the tunics that I want to start on. Because that's the other missing major shape.
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Date: 2013-01-30 11:56 pm (UTC)From:I'm not sure what to do about the skins, have to give that one some thought.
Adding the sleeves is just a basic edit, I should be able to get those finished for you this weekend. I prefer meshed on sleeves myself. It just looks more like clothing to me. On the subject of sleeves, you mentioned a sleeve from TSM, do you have a screenshot of the sleeve you like? Is it for men or women? Both? I'm editing heget's perfect tunic right now, and adding boots. I'm thinking sleeve options would be nice too!
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Date: 2013-01-31 01:12 am (UTC)From:I actually went through my clothing folder and you'd be surprised how FEW meshes there are! I seem to have the most in AM right now, and I'm up to sixteen. In the Deluxe kit. Although I may throw in Castaway Stories stuff-- that's deluxe-ish, right? Nobody converts CS stuff to other bodyshapes. Hell, I don't even know if I'd use it and I love me some Castaway Stories outfits. But... yeah, for the sample skin... Admittedly I was thinking maybe include the default mesh spread I use (which is a pretty wide spread; Bloom sexy feet and Warlokk Xhi-res and Blooms BRPB and Aquilegia's improved fatmorph...), a custom skintone that's got all the painted-on bits, and whatever UV maps I have?
I would be thrilled if that happened, I really would. Painting sleeves on works fine, but I kind of like the un-tailored look of a loose sleeve for some things, and in particular for the Strapdress.
I do seem to remember mentioning a nice-looking bag sleeve from TSM. Do you remember where we were talking about that? It's probably in the vicinity of the screenshot. I'll google and see what I can find, because right now my brain is like oatmeal.
EDIT: Okay, I MAY have been thinking of Anna Maria's pretty German sleeve in the first post of that thread, but I could've sworn I remembered a manly bag sleeve. (Which Anna Maria's sleeve WOULD be, if it had a much shorter cuff and didn't have the roll at the top.) German sleeves are always so pretty, with the slashes and the puffs. Why do I default to French fashion again?
*googling for screenshots* *So very, very jealous of crowns*
Physician Herbs guy looks like he might have a nice bag sleeve. Shame about the short sleeve over the top. Really, for a bag sleeve, I think the poofy sleeve you've used on the strapdress would work nicely. Just swap the hand out for a man's and you've got a nice charming troubador look. (And Enblith's Italian Renaissance Man has good rich-guy sleeves.)
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Date: 2013-02-10 12:14 am (UTC)From:Which default skins do you use? I'm trying to decide which ones I want to go with when I start my new hood. I've got to find something that will look good with Bloom's BRPB because that's what my female defaults are based on tf-ef. For the males I'm using Aquilegia's too.
I started on the Amaryll dress edits, I used the sleeve from the base game afBodyOverShirtPantsSandals, it's got a sleeve but it's not too wide. If you want a wider one I can switch it out.
OH! Those sleeves, one of the meshes has those without the oversleeve :) I have those saved as an .obj file to add to heget's tunic. I grabbed a few different options for the guys that I thought would look good on the tunic mesh, Enblith's is on the list. Trying to figure out how to make a couple of the tunics as top only to go with Aquilegia's improved fat morph/TSM shoe bottoms.
Don't get me started on the crowns, I have all of them extracted and made as objects, with most done as accessories. I want to release them as a set. I spent weeks trying to figure out how to make a pillow have a slot to place the crowns on, only to find out that if I did get it to work it wouldn't work the way I hoped. To place it on the OFB shelf I'd have to set a price on the pillow. I don't want to sell the darn pillow, just the crown. If I hadn't gotten a message about it I would still be fighting with it n SimPe lol. My workaround is a new shelf...with a pillow :) Once I've got that built I can clean up packages, take screenshots and share.
Did I mention the hats and helmets? Those are all in various stages of completion too.
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Date: 2013-02-10 12:58 am (UTC)From:I use a set of Louis skins modified by JWilson for the Xhires/Bloom Sexyfeet combo from over on InSim Adult as my default skins, but I kind of have, um, around 200 skintones in my game. Some of which I've tweaked so the nipples line up with Warlokk's meshes. And given bust lifts to a few elders so they line up with the EF nude I use. I've actually tried to STOP downloading skins-- I finally got all my genetic gaps filled in, which means I don't need any new ones. No matter how tempting Alfred's skins are. And they're very tempting.
The only drawback to the BRPB meshes is that they shrink the areolae down to little pinpoints.
I just got my game loaded, lemme fire up Boolprop and CAS and look at those sleeves. EDIT: I was definitely thinking of a looser sleeve. More like afbodymechanic or afbodymilitaryofficer, maybe even as loose as afbodylabcoat.
Yes, those! I like the shape of them, it's a little more like a bag sleeve than most full sleeves have been-- with more volume toward the back/bottom of the arm than the front. As far as separate tops that reliably cover bottoms without anything showing through, I hear there's some sort of witchery with making a second group that the textures go onto. I don't know how FR did it, whether she's a mapping ninja or whether she used a second group.
Good crowns are so needed, Cynnix! (I grabbed your wreaths.) Most of the ones out there are either tiaras or way too small. ... And while I don't know about oFB shelves (couldn't you put the crown on the pillow, mark the crown for sale, and then put the pillow on the shelf?) I do think a crown onna pillow would make a really good jewelry rack. There absolutely aren't enough custom jewelry racks out there. Shoot, I was thinking of seeing if I could take your other tabletop rack-of-wreaths and turn that into a jewelry rack, as well as the carved head version.
And can I just HELMETS OH MAN. REAL helmets, helmets that don't look like cliche Viking hats with horns and stuff. Helmets that look like helmets! SO AWESOME. And that crown on the far right? That's a perfect crown. (Is that thing second from the right the circlet from the Aristocrat hair? I know Marja made an accessory version I need to recolor.)